As I mentioned in prior posts, I’m a huge thriller/horror movie fan. The coloring makes this appear as the perfect haunting . Or as my kids would say, A Scooby Doo episode. I’m waiting for the Creepy skipper to poke his head out. Hahaha! Thanks for sharing.
I truly like this composition especially being attracted to taking pictures of shrimp boats and various working boats too!! I got in trouble once over taking a shrimp boat image ( before I ever considered trying to sell anything) which was hijacked off a site where I had placed some vacation photos.
In short yes. Will try to a brief history of what happened. I am soo not good at brevity.
1) One day I received a phone call on my cell from a man saying he had a client interested in my shrimp boat picture and that he’d seen it on someone’s site. I thought it was a wrong number then remembered I did have a shrimp boat picture I’d posted on my Guam photo site. So I asked where he saw it so I could see if it was mine at all. My image was grainy because I accidentally had the camera set at 800 iso. Sure enough, some attorneys had my image on their landing page. Whoa!! I was at first kinda of perversely thrilled that someone would steal my picture. Geeze!!
2) So I told the guy I’d have to get permission but what did they want it for and he said a business directory in the area. He gave me enough info for me to figure out who he was and where he worked. I did give him my email for contact.
3) I promptly researched copyright on boat images and learned that you have to take off the name and identifying features and then it’s ok to use without permission. But, I liked the name and wanted to get permission and so I web-searched the vessel number, found out the owner name and address (no phone) and sent him a nice letter explaining why I was asking and giving a sample of my Sanibel light card as that was kind of my beginning.
4) Never got a response from the owner/captain and the guy interested clearly didn’t want to buy, just use for photo credit and he said though my image was very appealing that he could take his own. So I said ok and left the matter as an interesting little blip.
5) 18 months later I am home with a vicious migraine headache and upset stomach and only answered the phone because I figured it was my husband. It was the captain I’d tried to contact and he was raving on about a directory cover and Universal Studios and he wanted compensation! I was petrified. But, I really did want to talk to him. I managed to convey the headache as I was hardly coherent and enough information that he realized that I had not sold anything to anyone. I said I had all my notes from the inquiry and would be happy to share information if he would call me on Monday at the office. I did ask if he received my property release form and letter I’d sent and I am not sure he did get it or not.
6) Lastly, he never did call me on Monday and I was anxious to talk to him. Probably another year later we drove by the place where the boat was docked on a West coast trip with hopes of seeing if he was aboard, but dock hands around the place indicated the vessel had been sold and was destined for Haiti. They mentioned some hoopla a couple of years in the past about a picture. I said nothing…and yep took a few pictures of the vessel before it would be far far away.
7) No I haven’t posted any pics of it since. I have no idea if the hoopla image was actually mine. The attorney site did remove the stolen image and I never corresponded with them.
8) This is long so go ahead and delete, but there is a lesson here on being careful about what you use vessel images for that have the name and identifying information on them. The irony was that I read as long as you stand on a public street you can do whatever you want with a picture of someone’s house. But all this was probably 8 years ago now and all over a vacation photo someone lifted and used. Oh, the attorney site did put the photo credit link to my site which is how I was contacted. It is still stealing if you don’t ask permission.
That is some story, and you have provided me with great information I did not know about vessel copyright. I will pursue a release, belatedly, and hope he doesn’t get shitty with me. I expect it will all be ok, but thanks for your amazing story. You are one articulate, interesting, and gifted woman. I really am very appreciative.
Oh thanks!! I expect that the problem was due to an image of the vessel having been used commercially without permission. People take snapshots of shrimp boats and working boats all the time and put them up. But, if you have the ability to get permission that is safest. You can always get rid of the vessel number and rename it in photoshop but, you know, most time the real name has the charm. Plus getting the release means that if an opportunity came up for you to use the image in some way commercially, that you would be safe to do so. This is why I take pictures of birds….they never feel hurt if you don’t ask for a model’s release.
I found some creep in India recently who had stolen an image of mine and put it on flickr as his own. Yahoo removed it, but not before I joined his long comment stream about how great the image is by adding the truth and calling him out in the process. Thank you for this comment.
That’s the interesting part….I got a comment on WP from someone who just signed on to tell me, and then they were gone in a flash. They sent me a link and I busted the guy in a public shaming sort of way. Yahoo was great. At least I saw all those nice comments about my picture…..hundreds. It is a good picture. The thief chose well.
Which image was it, one from a post you can point to!! Well I guess we can take some sort of solace in the thought that the thief had good taste. This is one reason to fill in your File Info or set the camera meta data to at least have your author name or copyright as part of the image file. If you look at someone’s photo in PS etc, you should see info like that and know where it came from.
🙂 Well hey I agree with everybody else its a beautiful and serene image. Did the fellow who claimed it ever even visit Colorado? Pretty brazen really!! Here is flat Florida, we don’t get scenes anything like that. I have to get on an airplane for mountains and meadows. Thanks for giving us these pretty images of your world.
Hell no he never got to Colorado and I let all his followers know what kind of man he was…..a liar, thief and cheat. No integrity.
I was stationed in Florida back in the day. Spent 3 1/2 years there and then my son moved there in 2003 and thankfully came back to Colorado 3 years later. I miss the water (grew up in NY) but love Colorado.
You are a good one….thank you.
I saw the comment but no response to your query. But it was nice the person recognized your work and felt it was important to address. That is a good thing.
Mike, this is really great. You’ve captured the personality (do boats have personalities?) of this old boat.
Sorry about the stolen image! I actually had someone contact me to ask permission to use an image of mine. I was so surprised!!
I just had a Facebook friend use one of my images for his header, without asking. Just a courtesy, me thinks. I like this image quite a bit. One of my favorites. Thanks.
I wish I was more comfortable on the sea. I have fear of rogue waves which are very real.
Yes, I got some satisfaction. I have busted other people and have been sent checks too.
I have given thought to staying close to shore, visiting many ports along the way. Corona would work, so too would a good ale, something like 90 Shilling, made in Fort Collins.
Yep! Major motion sickness on boats, in cars (luckily only in the back seat, these days), crowded buses and trains. “They” told me I would grow out of it. I hate “they”. 😊
I had it real bad as a kid, and would suffer mightily in the back seat of a car which is where I was usually stuck. I’m OK in cars now but a boat can still mess me up. And “they” don’t know squat.
Wow… I love all of the surrounding structure in this photograph! She does look comfortable resting where she is. Great shot, Mike!
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Thanks Lori. This one turned out well, me thinks.
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Exceptional!!!
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Thanks.
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Well done, Mike.
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Thanks Scott.
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As I mentioned in prior posts, I’m a huge thriller/horror movie fan. The coloring makes this appear as the perfect haunting . Or as my kids would say, A Scooby Doo episode. I’m waiting for the Creepy skipper to poke his head out. Hahaha! Thanks for sharing.
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Creepy always works for me. Thanks.
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I truly like this composition especially being attracted to taking pictures of shrimp boats and various working boats too!! I got in trouble once over taking a shrimp boat image ( before I ever considered trying to sell anything) which was hijacked off a site where I had placed some vacation photos.
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Hit send too soon. A long story maybe fun for a future post!! Maybe, I’ve skittish about that boat every since!!
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So you got in trouble with the boat owner?
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In short yes. Will try to a brief history of what happened. I am soo not good at brevity.
1) One day I received a phone call on my cell from a man saying he had a client interested in my shrimp boat picture and that he’d seen it on someone’s site. I thought it was a wrong number then remembered I did have a shrimp boat picture I’d posted on my Guam photo site. So I asked where he saw it so I could see if it was mine at all. My image was grainy because I accidentally had the camera set at 800 iso. Sure enough, some attorneys had my image on their landing page. Whoa!! I was at first kinda of perversely thrilled that someone would steal my picture. Geeze!!
2) So I told the guy I’d have to get permission but what did they want it for and he said a business directory in the area. He gave me enough info for me to figure out who he was and where he worked. I did give him my email for contact.
3) I promptly researched copyright on boat images and learned that you have to take off the name and identifying features and then it’s ok to use without permission. But, I liked the name and wanted to get permission and so I web-searched the vessel number, found out the owner name and address (no phone) and sent him a nice letter explaining why I was asking and giving a sample of my Sanibel light card as that was kind of my beginning.
4) Never got a response from the owner/captain and the guy interested clearly didn’t want to buy, just use for photo credit and he said though my image was very appealing that he could take his own. So I said ok and left the matter as an interesting little blip.
5) 18 months later I am home with a vicious migraine headache and upset stomach and only answered the phone because I figured it was my husband. It was the captain I’d tried to contact and he was raving on about a directory cover and Universal Studios and he wanted compensation! I was petrified. But, I really did want to talk to him. I managed to convey the headache as I was hardly coherent and enough information that he realized that I had not sold anything to anyone. I said I had all my notes from the inquiry and would be happy to share information if he would call me on Monday at the office. I did ask if he received my property release form and letter I’d sent and I am not sure he did get it or not.
6) Lastly, he never did call me on Monday and I was anxious to talk to him. Probably another year later we drove by the place where the boat was docked on a West coast trip with hopes of seeing if he was aboard, but dock hands around the place indicated the vessel had been sold and was destined for Haiti. They mentioned some hoopla a couple of years in the past about a picture. I said nothing…and yep took a few pictures of the vessel before it would be far far away.
7) No I haven’t posted any pics of it since. I have no idea if the hoopla image was actually mine. The attorney site did remove the stolen image and I never corresponded with them.
8) This is long so go ahead and delete, but there is a lesson here on being careful about what you use vessel images for that have the name and identifying information on them. The irony was that I read as long as you stand on a public street you can do whatever you want with a picture of someone’s house. But all this was probably 8 years ago now and all over a vacation photo someone lifted and used. Oh, the attorney site did put the photo credit link to my site which is how I was contacted. It is still stealing if you don’t ask permission.
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That is some story, and you have provided me with great information I did not know about vessel copyright. I will pursue a release, belatedly, and hope he doesn’t get shitty with me. I expect it will all be ok, but thanks for your amazing story. You are one articulate, interesting, and gifted woman. I really am very appreciative.
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Oh thanks!! I expect that the problem was due to an image of the vessel having been used commercially without permission. People take snapshots of shrimp boats and working boats all the time and put them up. But, if you have the ability to get permission that is safest. You can always get rid of the vessel number and rename it in photoshop but, you know, most time the real name has the charm. Plus getting the release means that if an opportunity came up for you to use the image in some way commercially, that you would be safe to do so. This is why I take pictures of birds….they never feel hurt if you don’t ask for a model’s release.
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And your images are crazy beautiful. Your birds love you. I know you love them.
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Well I do love them, but I suspect they just tolerate me and lend me their beauty for a time.
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I already have the owner’s name and phone number. I’ll call him soon. The internet is a blast.
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LOL, I know isn’t it great!! I am sure the owner will be thrilled about the image. Maybe he’d just love a print of it.
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I found some creep in India recently who had stolen an image of mine and put it on flickr as his own. Yahoo removed it, but not before I joined his long comment stream about how great the image is by adding the truth and calling him out in the process. Thank you for this comment.
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How did it come to your attention?
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That’s the interesting part….I got a comment on WP from someone who just signed on to tell me, and then they were gone in a flash. They sent me a link and I busted the guy in a public shaming sort of way. Yahoo was great. At least I saw all those nice comments about my picture…..hundreds. It is a good picture. The thief chose well.
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Which image was it, one from a post you can point to!! Well I guess we can take some sort of solace in the thought that the thief had good taste. This is one reason to fill in your File Info or set the camera meta data to at least have your author name or copyright as part of the image file. If you look at someone’s photo in PS etc, you should see info like that and know where it came from.
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Your wisdom is appreciated, grasshopper.
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🙂 Well hey I agree with everybody else its a beautiful and serene image. Did the fellow who claimed it ever even visit Colorado? Pretty brazen really!! Here is flat Florida, we don’t get scenes anything like that. I have to get on an airplane for mountains and meadows. Thanks for giving us these pretty images of your world.
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Hell no he never got to Colorado and I let all his followers know what kind of man he was…..a liar, thief and cheat. No integrity.
I was stationed in Florida back in the day. Spent 3 1/2 years there and then my son moved there in 2003 and thankfully came back to Colorado 3 years later. I miss the water (grew up in NY) but love Colorado.
You are a good one….thank you.
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Hell no he never got to Colorado…my wake up laugh of the day!!
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I saw the comment but no response to your query. But it was nice the person recognized your work and felt it was important to address. That is a good thing.
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Totally agree. It blew me away that someone recognized my work somewhere else, and was gracious enough to tell me.
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Mike, this is really great. You’ve captured the personality (do boats have personalities?) of this old boat.
Sorry about the stolen image! I actually had someone contact me to ask permission to use an image of mine. I was so surprised!!
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I just had a Facebook friend use one of my images for his header, without asking. Just a courtesy, me thinks. I like this image quite a bit. One of my favorites. Thanks.
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hmmm … that’s kind of cheeky isn’t it (a FB friend using your photo without asking)
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Yes, and he puts me in an awkward position too. He is actually someone who befriended me from WP. It’s not a huge deal, but I am bothered by it.
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it would bother me, too …
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I messaged him. Army vet, I bet he handles it well.
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I can see you aft, of course after she’s been refitted, with a six pack of Coronas and enjoying life. 🙂
Taking photos are one of the biggest problems across the net. At least you got some satisfaction.
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I wish I was more comfortable on the sea. I have fear of rogue waves which are very real.
Yes, I got some satisfaction. I have busted other people and have been sent checks too.
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Nothing says you have to leave port. How else are you going to replenish the Corona supply?
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I have given thought to staying close to shore, visiting many ports along the way. Corona would work, so too would a good ale, something like 90 Shilling, made in Fort Collins.
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Wouw so beautiful.
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Thank you sweet Marylou.
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Awesome Black and White photo Mike! Rustic beauty! I hope you have a wonderful week! Hugz Lisa and Bear
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Thank you both. You have a great week as well.
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Turn out really well! Love boats. They don’t like me.😁
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Does that mean you get sea sick? I do. But I like all things water, including boats. Thanks Katie.
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Yep! Major motion sickness on boats, in cars (luckily only in the back seat, these days), crowded buses and trains. “They” told me I would grow out of it. I hate “they”. 😊
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I had it real bad as a kid, and would suffer mightily in the back seat of a car which is where I was usually stuck. I’m OK in cars now but a boat can still mess me up. And “they” don’t know squat.
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So true, oh Man of Great Wisdom, so true. X x 😋
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Great shot, Mike, and an exceptional rendering in b/w.
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Thank you Pit. Shot down in Rockport.
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That big oak there, called “The Big Tree”? I have pictures of it, too. Ever so magnificent.
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That be the one.
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